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whosoever signs the check is the tax payer

Posted by Citizen on July 21, 2007

My favorite site has another dose of right thinking common sense. This brings up one of my favorite methods to raise howls of disbelief. Buckle up, this requires an open mind and clear thinking. Ready?

The entire US tax code is a ponzi scheme. It has wage earning Americans believing that they pay their own tax bills and social security/ medicare costs. Right? Answer this: do they write a check every pay period and send the monies to the appropriate appropriating agencies? They think so. Their check stubs show all the ‘deductions’ that they’ve ‘paid’, right?

Is that true though? Believing something doesn’t make it true. What’s really going on? Most employees have probably never paid someone else’s wages. But if they had been an employer they would know that it’s the employer who pays the taxes, and the risky IRS reporting scheme  fools the wage earner into believing that he actually paid those taxes, when in fact the employer paid them.

Well, you say, if the employer had paid all that revenue to the employee, and the employee had sent the money in, it would be the same thing, a wash, right? NOT REALLY.

Say that the payroll is a big bowl of jelly beans. The contract states that every week you get 327 jelly beans, except that the JBS (jelly_bean_service) demands that the employer send it 49 jelly beans for one item, and 22 jelly beans for another, and 11 for yet another category of ‘deduction’. So your compensation for the week is actually 245 jelly beans. And the JBS compensation for allowing the employer to employ you is 82 jelly beans.

POP QUIZ  Here’s the trick question, pay attention: who paid the beans to the JBS?

BINGO !!  It could not possibly be you, because you never had 327 jelly beans. You only got 245 jelly beans. That’s all there ever was. The rest of it is accounting smoke and mirrors. You got the smoke and the employer paid the beans to be able to remain in business.

How would I know this? I was self employed most of my life. I wrote the checks to the IRS and filed all the paperwork so I could remain in business. Ergo:

The person who signs the check is the person who pays the taxes, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE CHECK STUB SAYS. The check stub lies to you. It’s just amazing that so many millions of Americans blindly believe this accounting trick. I think even the overclass has come to believe it, and they should know better.

You didn’t pay anything if you didn’t have it in the first place. The taxpayer is whoever signs the check to the IRS. If you didn’t cut the check, you didn’t pay the taxes.

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more democrat treason

Posted by Citizen on July 19, 2007

They’re taking the side of our muslim enemies AGAINST US.

Republicans aides will put up a fight when the conference committee begins at 1 p.m., to reinsert the language, but the public needs to weigh in. We are always told to be vigilant. To “say something” when we “see something.” I see Democrats carrying water for CAIR and endangering national security.

Say something!

Congress switchboard: 202-224-3121
Nancy Pelosi’s office: 202-225-4965

The partisans of defeat are at it again..,

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OSHA slapdown –> dontcha just love it?

Posted by Citizen on July 16, 2007

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Labor Department Announces It Will Revise
Overreaching OSHA Explosives Rule

The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) announced it will significantly revise a recent proposal for new “explosives safety” regulations that caused serious concern among gun owners. OSHA had originally set out to update workplace safety regulations, but the proposed rules included restrictions that very few gun shops, sporting goods stores, shippers, or ammunition dealers could comply with.

Gun owners had filed a blizzard of negative comments urged by the NRA, and just a week ago, OSHA had already issued one extension for its public comment period at the request of the National Shooting Sports Foundation. After continued publicity through NRA alerts and the outdoor media, and after dozens of Members of Congress expressed concern about its impact, OSHA has wisely decided to go back to the drawing board.

Working with the NRA, Congressman Denny Rehberg (R-MT) planned to offer a floor amendment to the Labor-HHS appropriations bill this Wednesday when the House considers this legislation. His amendment would have prohibited federal funds from being used to enforce this OSHA regulation.

Such an amendment is no longer necessary since Kristine A. Iverson, the Labor Department’s Assistant Secretary for Congressional and Intergovernmental Affairs, sent Rep. Rehberg a letter, dated July 16, stating that it “was never the intention of OSHA to block the sale, transportation, or storage of small arms ammunition, and OSHA is taking prompt action to revise” this proposed rule to clarify the purpose of the regulation.

Also, working with the NRA, Congressman Doug Lamborn (R-CO) gathered signatures from 25 House colleagues for a letter, dated July 11, expressing concerns about this proposed OSHA rule. The letter calling the proposal “an undue burden on a single industry where facts do not support the need outlined by this proposed rule” and “not feasible, making it realistically impossible for companies to comply with its tenets.”

The OSHA proposal would have defined “explosives” to include “black powder, … small arms ammunition, small arms ammunition primers, [and] smokeless propellant,” and treated these items the same as the most volatile high explosives.

Under the proposed rule, a workplace that contained even a handful of small arms cartridges, for any reason, would have been considered a “facility containing explosives” and therefore subject to many impractical restrictions. For example, no one could carry “firearms, ammunition, or similar articles in facilities containing explosives … except as required for work duties.” Obviously, this rule would make it impossible to operate any kind of gun store, firing range, or gunsmith shop.

The public comment website for the proposed rule is no longer accessible. The Labor Department will publish a notice in the July 17 Federal Register announcing that a new rule proposal will soon be drafted for public comment. Needless to say, the NRA monitors proposed federal regulations to head off this kind of overreach, and will be alert for OSHA’s next draft.

We will post the letter to Congressman Rehberg shortly.

http://www.NRAILA.org

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Hopefully no one will be so deceived as to forget about this. Be absolutely certain that the enemies of all our liberties are still laboring to destroy them.

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it’s OSHA and the corrupt congress combined

Posted by Citizen on July 10, 2007

quote:


Pennsylvania Case Reveals How McCarthy Bill Could Threaten All Gun
Owners
— Troubling questions in HR 2640 still go unanswered

Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
http://www.gunowners.org

Tuesday, July 10, 2007

“For the first time [in history, HR 2640], if enacted, would
statutorily impose a lifetime gun ban on battle-scarred veterans.” —
Military Order of the Purple Heart, June 18, 2007

ACTION:

1. Even if you have already sent an e-mail to your Senators on the
McCarthy bill, please send another such as the one at the end of this
alert. Yes, you might have already taken action on HR 2640. But if
you (and many other gun owners like yourself) haven’t taken any
action recently, then NO ONE is taking action. After all, the NRA is
supporting this bill, so they’re not rustlin’ up the troops in
opposition to this massive gun control bill. Remember the
immigration fight — it took weeks of continued activism to kill that
bill. This fight may very well be the same.

2. Please try to get as many of your friends as you can to join with
you in this effort to kill the McCarthy bill (HR 2640). Now that
Senators are returning from their July 4th holiday, we need to get as
many gun owners as possible to remind them that HR 2640 is
unacceptable!

McCARTHY BILL COULD COME UP AT ANY TIME IN THE U.S. SENATE

Now that Congress returns to work this week, your liberties are in
jeopardy once again!

You will remember that before the Independence Day break, the House
of Representatives passed a McCarthy gun control bill (HR 2640)
without any hearings, without any committee action… they put it on
the Suspension Calendar and simply got a non-recorded voice vote.

An important part of the legislative process is to introduce a bill
in committee, to get both public and private observers to ask
questions, make recommendations and offer comments on the bill.

But for some reason, HR 2640 was not given this benefit. The bill
was rammed through the legislature with very few Representatives
present on the House floor… there was no recorded vote at all!

So it’s not surprising that, having skipped much of the legislative
process, there are still a lot of unanswered questions regarding HR
2640. In fact, these questions have only been magnified after an
offhanded, tongue-in-cheek remark made at the Harrisburg Community
College in Pennsylvania cost a man his gun rights for life in that
state.

Newspapers last month reported that Horatio Miller allegedly said
that it could be “worse than Virginia Tech” if someone broke
into his
car, because there were guns there. It is not clear whether he was
making a threat against a person who might burglarize his car, or if
he was simply saying that the bad guy could do a lot of damage
because of the guns he would find there. Nevertheless, Miller was
arrested, but not charged with anything.

The comment Miller made was certainly not the smartest thing to say.
But realize, we don’t incarcerate people for making stupid statements
in this country — at least not yet. Miller was a concealed carry
permit holder who, as such, had passed vigorous background checks
into his past history. Miller does not have a criminal record.

Regardless, the county district attorney did not like what he had
said, so, according to the Harrisburg Patriot News on June 20, “I
contacted the sheriff and had his license to carry a firearm revoked.
And I asked police to commit him under Section 302 of the mental
health procedures act and that was done. He is now ineligible to
possess firearms [for life] because he was committed involuntarily.”

Get that?

Pennsylvania is operating exactly the way Rep. McCarthy’s bill (HR
2640) could treat all Americans. You might be thinking, I’ve never
had a mental illness… I’m not a military veteran… I’ve never been
on Ritalin… hey, I have nothing to worry about under the McCarthy
bill. Right?

Well, think again.

DO YOUR VIEWS ON THE SECOND AMENDMENT MAKE YOU A POTENTIAL DANGER?

The Pennsylvania case shows how all gun owners could be threatened by
HR 2640. After all, did you ever tell anyone that the Second
Amendment was included in the Bill of Rights because the Founders
(such as James Madison) wanted the people to be able to overturn a
tyrannical American government?

Or, while you were watching the nightly news — and getting a
detailed account of all the crime in your area — did you ever make a
statement such as, “If someone were to break through my door, I’d
blow him away!”

Well, those kinds of statements will certainly make anti-gun nuts
think you’re a potential danger to yourself or others. So if you
make the local district attorney or police officer nervous, how
difficult would it be for him to get a psychiatrist (most of whom are
very left-wing) to say that you are a danger to yourself and to
others?

Or, would the district attorney even need to get a psychiatrist? One
of the outrageous aspects of the McCarthy bill is that Section 3(2)
codifies existing federal regulations. And existing federal code
says it only takes a “lawful authority” to
“adjudicate” someone as a
mental defective.(1) And another section of the bill makes it clear
this “adjudication” does not need to be made by a formal court, but
can simply be a “determination” — such as a medical diagnosis.(2)

Consider how significant this is. The BATFE has been quietly
attempting to amend the federal code by regulatory fiat for years,
but they’ve been somewhat restrained in their ability to interpret
these regulations because they are, after all, regulations (and not
statutory law).

But with HR 2640, much of the pablum that BATFE bureaucrats have
quietly added to the code over the years will now become the LAW OF
THE LAND — even though those regs were never submitted to a
legislative committee or scrutinized in legislative hearings or
debated on the floor of the House of Representatives.

When one looks at the federal regs cited above, there are a lot of
questions that still remain unanswered. What kinds of people can
fall into this category of “other lawful authority” that can deem
someone to be a mental defective? Certainly, it would seem to apply
to Veterans Administration shrinks. After all, the federal
government already added more than 80,000 veterans with Post
Traumatic Stress into the NICS system in 2000.

But who else could be classified as a “lawful authority”? A school
counselor? A district attorney? What about a legislator, a city
councilman or a cop? They are certainly “authorities” in their own
right. Could the words “lawful authority” also apply to them?

Do we really want to risk the Second Amendment on the question of
what the words “lawful authority” in 27 CFR 478.11 mean —
once they
have been “statutized” by HR 2640 and BATF is no longer under ANY
constraint and can read it as broadly as they want?

If the “lawful authority” thinks you pose a danger to yourself or
others (or can’t manage your own affairs) then your gun rights could
be gone.

In its open letter of May 9, 2007, BATFE makes it clear that this
“danger” doesn’t have to be “imminent” or
“substantial,” but can
include “any danger” at all. How many shrinks — using the
Pennsylvania standard — are going to say that a pro-gun American
like you, who believes the Second Amendment is the last defense
against tyranny, DOESN’T POSE AT LEAST AN INFINITESIMAL RISK of
hurting someone else?

As easy as that, your gun rights would be gone forever.

HR 2640 is Janet Reno’s dream. Does somebody make a politician
nervous? Get a prescription pad, get your friendly left-wing
psychiatrist to make the “dangerous” diagnosis, and it’s all over.
Expungement will be virtually impossible. Just turn in your guns.

FOOTNOTES:

(1) See 27 CFR 478.11.
(2) See Section 101(c)(1)(C).

FOR MORE INFORMATION: Supporters of the McCarthy bill are hanging
their hat on language which purports to help disqualified people to
get their rights restored. So GOA has built a special section on its
website that gets to the truth on this issue and informs gun owners
of the dangers in HR 2640. Please go to
http://www.gunowners.org/netb.htm to learn what the specifics of the
bill are, who its main supporters are, answers to claims made by
proponents of the bill, who faces the greatest risk of being
disqualified for buying a gun, and more.

CONTACT INFORMATION: You can use the pre-written letter below to
help direct your comments to your two U.S. Senators. Please visit
the Gun Owners Legislative Action Center at
http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm to send your Senators the
pre-written e-mail message below.

—– Pre-written letter —–

Dear Senator:

The Military Order of the Purple Heart got it right when it stated
that for the first time in history, HR 2640 “would statutorily impose
a lifetime gun ban on battle-scarred veterans.”

The Military Order of the Purple Heart, which is chartered by
Congress, is urging the DEFEAT of HR 2640, the Brady-expansion
legislation introduced by anti-gun Rep. Carolyn McCarthy.

Despite what you may have heard elsewhere, this bill THREATENS gun
owners’ rights and represents one of the biggest gun bans in history.

A recent case in Pennsylvania shows how easily a gun owner can be
slapped with a LIFETIME gun ban, without any due process, based
solely on a mere accusation by a shrink or other “lawful
authority.”
For more information on this — and for a point-by-point analysis of
HR 2640 — please go to http://www.gunowners.org on the website of
Gun Owners of America.

All the background checks in the world will NOT stop bad guys from
getting firearms. Severe restrictions in Washington, DC, England,
Canada, Germany and other places have not stopped evil people from
using guns to commit murder.

Again, I hope you will OPPOSE the McCarthy bill (HR 2640). Thank
you.

Sincerely,

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OSHA is stealing your ammo

Posted by Citizen on July 7, 2007

If you value your second amendment rights, if you want to be able to at least stop the jihadis AT YOUR DOOR, it would behoove you to use this template and contact your dearest and nearest politician as soon as possible. This is a date-certain deadline that will gut your second amendment rights if it goes unchecked. We won’t have any decendents if we don’t defend our freedoms when they are attacked by our own government. Dial for liberty.

Dear ( )

RE: OSHA-2007-0032-0001

I am one of your Constituents and live and Vote in Indiana, which, as you know, is the home of the National Muzzle Loading Rifle Association, based in Friendship IN. The Traditional American sport of Black Powder Muzzle loading Rifle Competition is already being not so slowly squeezed out of existence by the regulation of Black Powder.

Flintlock and Wheel lock muzzle-loaders require real Black Powder to function – modern substitutes have too high an ignition temperature to work properly, if at all. However, it is now the case that, because of the cost of complying with the regulation of Black Powder as an Explosive, there are often fewer than two or three retailers in an entire State that will carry real Black Powder.

This Rule Update will make that worse, and will carry that regulatory burden even further into the realm of Smokeless Powder cartridge reloading – utterly devastating the sport and Industry, throwing thousands out of work.

The requirements described on Pg 53 and 54 will make it almost impossible for small gun shops to maintain enough reloading supplies to have a viable product mix. There are over 20 different brands and formulations of smokeless powders – making it impossible for a business to be able to offer them all on display. Likewise, many private reloaders prefer to buy in bulk, more than 1lb at a time, and this regulation would make extant 4lb and 8lb canisters illegal.

Also, most shops would have to undergo major architectural renovations and absurd evacuation rules to comply with storage requirements. The net effect of this will be to drive retailers to discontinue all reloading supply sales.

The net result of this regulation will not be more safety, but less, as reloaders make a run on supplies to keep at their homes – possibly in violation of local Fire Codes.

Unaccountable Regulation has all but killed America’s First Sport of Flintlock Riflery. This looks to finish off sport shooting all together.

Please see the NSSF concerns at these links:

http://www.nssf.org/share/docs/BP070207-OSHAletter.rtf

http://www.nssf.org/news/PR_idx.cfm?PRloc=common/PR/&PR=BP070207.cfm

This proposed regulatory gutting of the 2nd Amendment is also directly contrary to the spirit and letter of the McClure-Volkmer Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986, which was intended to deregulate ammunition.

I am asking you to investigate and vigorously oppose this blatant attempt at Legislation without Representation.

congressional toll free switchboards:

800-828-0498

800-459-1887

800-614-2803

866-340-9281

866-338-1015

877-851-6437

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OSHA wants to steal your ink

Posted by Citizen on July 6, 2007

Well, not exactly, but if you follow me to the end you will see the danger you’re in already.

OSHA, an agency of the US government has an open comment period on new regulations. The chilling fact is that if they your succeed with the proposed rules unaltered they will directly impinge on our Second Amendment constitutional guarantees.

As written, the proposed rule would force the closure of nearly all ammunition manufacturers and force the cost of small arms ammunition to skyrocket beyond what the market could bear—essentially collapsing our industry. This is not an exaggeration. The cost to comply with the proposed rule for the ammunition industry, including manufacturer, wholesale distributors and retailers, will be massive and easily exceed $100 million.

The majority of Americans own guns. This rule would have the same effect as depriving us of gasoline. We can’t drive cars that we can’t fuel up. We can’t use guns that we can’t fuel up either. There is no constitutional right to own a car and drive on roads, but there is a constitutional right to own a firearm.

This rotten OSHA proposal is the backdoor destruction of our right to own and operate our firearms.

For anyone who doesn’t own a gun, let’s put this in terms you can relate to. We have another constitutionaly protected right, the First Amendment. Suppose that a government agency decided to solve the problem of too few trees and too many opinions. The agency proposes a rule that ink and paper have to be treated exactly the way OSHA proposes to treat our components. There you have it then, you have the amendment but no way to use it.

“But, but wait,” you say, “we can blog on the internet and talk on the radio, right?” Well here’s a dirty little secret, the coliseum of corruption wants to destroy talk radio and hates the internet too, at least the part they don’t agree with.

It’s not that big of a stretch to see how the first amendment can be abrogated, especially if we do nothing to prevent the corruption of the second.

This is more back-room destruction of American freedoms. If you don’t care to take this reaming lying down the document number is OSHA-2007-0032-0001 and the document title is Explosives.

Congress has oversight and it controls the OSHA budget, so there is one sensitive nerve there. I encourage everyone to comment on the OSHA web site and to call everyone you called to stop shamnesty. This is part and parcel of the same problem, we need to stop it.

http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/component/main

You are not free if a bureaucrat can take away your supplies, powder or ink.

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can you believe this?

Posted by Citizen on June 23, 2007

Jim Inhofe, a U.S. senator, has a website that is conducting a petition that you can participate in if you want to vent about the smamnesty bill that the corrupt in DC are trying to foist on America. Visit this link if you want to contribute:

http://www.securebordersnow.com/

You can also write comments, which is why I’m passing this on. This is what I wrote:

I am totally opposed to any and all forms of the current legislation. First: SECURE THE BORDER. Second: Admit immigrants in the order they applied. Third: deport the law breakers. Yes, this would amount to all the illegals, who are trespassers and/or invaders. Which leads back to: SECURE THE BORDERS. That is the first order of business for elected officials, and it’s the one thing about which every elected official is derelect in his duty. SECURE THE BORDER. ADMIT IMMIGRANTS IN THE ORDER THEY APPLIED AND WERE VETTED. DO NOTHING ELSE UNTIL THESE TWO ITEMS ARE COMPLETELY COMPLIED WITH. THIS IS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.

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please drop a dime

Posted by Citizen on June 20, 2007

Want to save the Nation? Please call the talk-back lines of the U.S. government because they’ve gone over the cliff. They are now saying that the sham-amnesty bill they’re trying to ram down our throats, (or up our collective _ _ _ _ _), is a security measure. Well, they’re right in one regard, that bill will ensure the security of the gangs of terrorists the same government has allowed into this country.

CALL:

senate back-talk line: 800-417-7666

white house back-talk line: 202-456-1111

This call is a matter of National Security: YOURS!

Giving Terrorists Options

Inexplicably, proponents of the Kennedy amnesty bill assume that its

enactment will allow the federal government to identify these terrorists.

On the contrary, the bill will make it easier for alien terrorists to

operate in the United States by allowing them to create fraudulent

identities with ease. To understand what will happen if the bill becomes

law, assume the perspective of the illegal alien terrorist operating within

the United States.

Within 180 days after the President signs the legislation, the Department

of Homeland Security must start handing out amnesties, in the form of

“probationary” Z visas. (No border security triggers need to be met; the

amnesty comes first, according to Sections 1(a) and 601(f)(2) of the bill.)

At that point, the terrorist can choose whichever of three options suits

him best.

RTWT: http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1513.cfm

senate back-talk line: 800-417-7666

white house back-talk line: 202-456-1111

 

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we’re from the government

Posted by Citizen on June 12, 2007

AND WE’RE HERE TO SCREW YOU

 

senate belch-back line: 800-417-7666

white house back talk line: 202-456-1111 

 

If you ever suspected maybe I’m right and both bodies of congress are entirely corrupt, read this piece by Michelle Malkin. Then tell me whose interests the government is looking out for.

 

Today Bush is going to arm-twist the congress again in an attempt to force his shamnesty bill through, putting one more government garrot around our necks. If you want to squeak before the noose tightens, phone this number:

 

senate belch-back line: 800-417-7666

 

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/007697.htm

 

Read ’em and weep. This is your government. They cannot be trusted with matches, much less our Country. Let ’em hear it”

 

senate belch-back line: 800-417-7666

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something about Rudy

Posted by Citizen on June 1, 2007

There is a ton of palaver on the radio from self proclaimed conservatives who don’t really seem all that conservative to me. Try to follow me on this.

Rudy is running as a Republican for the party presidential nomination. Talkers like Hewitt, Miller, and Hannity are all saying ‘Rudy is my guy’, or words to that effect. At least two of those guys think they are conservatives. But I’ve got questions about that.

He is divorced. And he likes abortions. My question is this: if he is able to blow off two of the catholic church’s biggest no-no’s, then how conservative is that? Conservative means at least abiding by the original set of rules, not modifying them willy-nilly, right?

To get a little further down this road, Rudy wants to steal my guns by violating my second amendment constitutional rights, he wants to steal my money to pay for abortions, and he wants to give his blessings to same-sex relationships, something coincidently also forbidden by church doctrine. What’s my question?

What’s conservative about that? Which plank of the republican party says republicans stand for repudiating my constitutional rights, my human rights, and my moral rights? How is Rudy conserving the republican party platform? The short answer?

He isn’t. He is not a republican. He is a wolf in a republican toga. The really disgusting thing is that three smart guys have never even considered this, much less noticed their own decidedly un-conservative cheering for Giuliani. Not that he is all bad. He says the right words about killing the cold blooded killers ‘over there’.

So what? That does not make him a republican. There are lots of democrat talkers with the same line. That certainly does not make him a conservative.

If Hannity, Miller, & Hewitt think Rudy’s gonna get my vote, and the vote of other actual conservatives, I am very disappointed with them.

That’s what I would say if I could email them without giving up my first born, or get through on the blab line. Rudy’s not a republican, by his own words, and those three talkers aren’t conservative if they think Rudy is a republican. He fits the democrat party platform to a tee, he should be running on his side rather than stinking up ours.

The whole point is, if Rudy can not be trusted to play by the church playbook, or the party platform play book, how on earth can ANYONE trust him with the constitution/bill of rights playbook?

Not me and not my family. I bet there are millions of silent ‘amens’ from the silent majority come election day. Ya think?

I found this great map:

http://patriotpost.us/news/map.asp 

This is how an actual conservative polls. Does anybody seriously think that Guiliani can produce this result? No way, it’s not gonna happen.

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